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  • Name NELSON, Andrew Abernethy 
    Suffix III 
    Born 1866  Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Newspaper article 11 Jan 1888  Young and Jackson's Hotel, Swanston street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4, 5
    "Amateur" status 
    'Amateur' status
    "Amateur" status
    The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957)
    11 January 1888
    Page 9
    Newspaper article 18 Mar 1889  Albert Park lake, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    The Victorian Rowing Association's Regatta 
    The Victorian Rowing Association's Regatta
    THE NELSON CASE.
    Victorian Rowing Association
    THE NELSON CASE.
    Newspaper article 14 Mar 1914  Barwon river, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Won the Barwon Regatta 
    Won the Barwon Regatta in 1887
    Won the Barwon Regatta in 1887
    Warrnambool Standard (Vic. : 1914 - 1918)
    14 Mar 1914
    Page 3
    Died Bef 1945 
    Headstones Submit Headstone Photo Submit Headstone Photo 
    Person ID I1623  We 4 Kings
    Last Modified 8 Aug 2014 

    Father NELSON, Andrew Abernethy II .,   b. Abt 1830, Comber, County Down, Northern Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Jun 1875, Hopkins River, Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 45 years) 
    Mother MANN, Frances Maria .,   b. 6 May 1829, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 May 1900, “Waveney”, Mills Street, Albert Park, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years) 
    Married Jul 1848  Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Family ID F457  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family KERR, Alice Amelia,   b. 1865, Casterton, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Sep 1945, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years) 
    Married 1892  Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Children 
     1. NELSON, Norman Andrew Abernethy,   b. 1893, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 May 1968, Heidelberg, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)
     2. NELSON, Frances Amelia,   b. Abt 1897,   d. 10 Aug 1984, Blackburn, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 87 years)
    Family ID F684  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 1866 - Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsNewspaper article - "Amateur" status - 11 Jan 1888 - Young and Jackson's Hotel, Swanston street, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsNewspaper article - The Victorian Rowing Association's Regatta - 18 Mar 1889 - Albert Park lake, Victoria, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 1892 - Victoria, Australia Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsNewspaper article - Won the Barwon Regatta - 14 Mar 1914 - Barwon river, Victoria, Australia Link to Google Earth
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    1. [S34] Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836 - 1888, The Crown in the state of Victoria, (Macbeth Genealogical Services P/L), 11870, 1866.
      Surname: NELSON
      Given Names: Andrew Abernethy
      Event: B
      Spouse Surname/Father: Andrew Aberneth
      Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny Maria MANN
      Age:
      Sex:
      Birth Place: WARRNAMBOOL
      Death Place:
      Year: 1866
      Reg Number: 11870
      Denomination:
      Parish:
      Fiche:

    2. [S250] The Australasian (Melbourne, Vic. : 1864 - 1946) , Page 22, 18 Jan 1890.
      VICTORIAN ROWING ASSOCIATION.
      The monthly meeting of the committee of the Victorian Rowing Association was held at Young and Jackson's Hotel, Swanston street, on Monday evening, Mr. G. E. Upward presiding.
      Mr. A. A. Nelson, of the Warrnambool club, who was some time ago debarred from rowing as an amateur oarsman on the ground that "he was believed to be engaged in letting and attending to pleasure boats on the Hopkins River, attended the meeting by request of the committee. He explained that he was not engaged in attending to the boats, and had only let them out on a few occasions in the absence of his brother, who was regularly employed in looking after the boats. He had now left Warrnambool, and was following his trade as a confectioner in Melbourne. It was decided, under the circumstances, to remove the restriction placed on Mr. Nelson from competing at regattas as an amateur oarsman.
      A lengthy discussion took place in reference to the value of the prizes to be given at the regatta to be held by the association at Albert-park on the 22nd prox. It was pointed out that, owing mainly to the entrance fee of the competitors having been reduced at the last annual, meeting, it was essential that a slight reduction should be made in the value of the prizes for this year, so that the association might commence next season unencumbered by a debit balance. It was resolved that the prizes in the Maiden and Junior races should be

    3. [S177] The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Page 7, 14 May 1889.
      VICTORIAN ROWING ASSOCIATION.
      The ordinary monthly meeting of the Victorian Rowing Association was held last night at Messrs Young and Jackson's, Mr. J. A. Levey in the chair.
      WILLS CHALLENGE SCULLS.
      In connection with this trophy, awarded to Mr Kerr after a disputed race, Mr. P. Bradley wrote asking the committee to say when, by whom, and in what manner he had been asked to row for this prize, which, for the alleged reason of his refusing to row, had been handed over to Mr Kerr. Unless some satisfactory answer were afforded he would take legal proceedings against the association, as they had treated him with utter contempt all through.
      The chairman asked whether the resolution of the association, carried at a meeting held on the 8th April, when it was decided that the trophy had been won by Mr Kerr, was conveyed to Mr Bradley.
      Mr. W. B. House, the honorary secretary, explained that, as representatives of Mr. Bradley's club were present at the meeting, he had not formally intimated the decision.
      It was decided to inform Mr. Bradley of the action already taken by the association.
      THE NELSON CASE.
      Mr. R. B. Nicolson moved for the rescinding of a resolution carried on the 12th November last with reference to the qualifications as an amateur of A. Nelson, of the Warrnambool club.
      On that occasion the club stated that Nelson was by trade a baker, and while temporarily employed stopped at his mother's hotel on the Hopkins, where his only connection with boat letting was to hand a pair of oars to a boating party or a fishing-rod to anglers. On this statement the association decided that they were unable to say that Nelson had forfeited his amateur status.
      The chairman read a letter he had received from Warrnambool, stating that Nelson was now regularly employed on the river in connection with boats and a small steamer.
      The motion for rescinding the former resolution was withdrawn, and members were requested to furnish all evidence upon the matter before next meeting in order that it might be submitted to the Warnambool club for a reply.
      ORDERS FOR TROPHIES.
      Mr. Horsburgh moved that the orders for trophies won at the association's a regattas be left open for winners to select their trophies at any establishment, and not as hitherto from jewellers only, and that the following articles should be recognised as trophies:- Books, jewellery, cutlery, photographs of crews pictures, boats, oars, sculls, bicycles, tricycles, walking sticks, and musical instruments, subject to the committee being satisfied that articles to the full value of the order were purchased.
      After some discussion, during which a fear was expressed that the resolution, if passed, would be found to be unworkable when attempted to be put into practice, owing to the large amount of clerical work it would entail on the hon. secretary, the motion was carried.
      SCULLING RACE.
      it was decided that the course for the sculling race, to take place on the 1st prox. on the Lower Yarra, should be from the Melbourne end of the Coode canal to the steam crane on the South Wharf, near the Falls bridge, and that the entries should close at Young and Jackson's at 9pm on Friday.
      NOTICE OF MOTION.
      Mr Upward gave notice of motion that the champion four-oared race on the Lower Yarra should be thrown open to the colonies, and that the entrance fees at regattas should not exceed 5s per oar. The meeting then closed.

    4. [S177] The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Page 9, 11 Jan 1888.
      THE VICTORIAN ROWING
      ASSOCIATION.

      Tho committee of the Victorian Rowing Association met at Young and Jackson's Hotel on Monday evening. Present-Mr. O'Neill (in the chair), and Mesers Upward, Henderson, Nicholson, Haverty, Steele, Warren, Tate, Bradley, Horsburgh, House, Silke, Webster, and Boyd.

      CORRESPONDENCE.

      Mr. W. G. Ogden having written apologising for absence for the third time, it was moved that leave be granted, but at the same time that the effect of rule 8 (that a seat becomes vacant after four meetings have been missed) be pointed out.

      The Warrnambool club desired to be informed if the statements made in the press to the effect that the qualifications of A. C. Nelson, the stroke of their maiden eight at Colac, were to be inquired into, were true.

      Alter a lengthy discussion, it was resolved that as the matter had only been brought under notice in an informal manner, the committee could do nothing, but that the attention of the Warrnambool club be drawn to regatta regulation No. 19, debarring anyone from rowing as an amateur who was engaged in the hiring or letting ot boats, and also that they be informed that in the event of Nelson competing at the Melbourne regatta inquiry would certainly be made into his standing.

      In reply to an invitation from the com- mittee to a valedictory social, Mr. H. G. Turner wrote that he regretted he could not accept the invitation before his departure for England owing to pressure of business and ill health, but he would be most happy to accept the compliment on his return. The secretary was instructed to express regret for the cause of Mr. Turner's refusal, and to state that it was hoped the opportunity to mark the association's goodwill would occur on his return.

      Mr. R. Nicholson, of the Banks club, asked whether it was intended to place a junior eight on the programme. He required to know at once, as otherwise his club would be obliged to disband the crew they had formed, and make different arrangements The reply was given that if possible the regatta committee would include the event named, but they would not be able to do so unless they had some assurance that three entries would be made. Up to the present the Banks and Warrnambool were the only clubs that had expressed any intention of sending crews tor it.

      The secretary announced that Messrs. W. Leverett and H. T. Jordan (elected members) had forfeited their seats through non attend- ance, and it was agreed that nominations for the vacancies should be received at the next ordinary meeting of the committee.

      The committee resolved that the trophies won by the Williamstown crew in the South Australian intercolonial race, and those awarded to the winners of the general scratch eight, be presented at the social to be held on the evening of the regatta.

      The following clubs gave notice of the crews they had up to the present determined upon sending to compete at Albert-park on the 11th prox.: -Albert park R. C. Junior and senior scullers, maiden eieht, and maiden and senior fours Mercantile R.C. Maiden eight and junior four. Warrnambool-Maiden four and junior eight. Yarra Yarra R. C.- Maiden sculls (two), junior sculls, maiden eight, and probable maiden four. Banks R. C.-Maiden and junior eights.

      In reply to a question, Mr House men- tioned that the winning numbers of the V.R.A. art union had been published in the daily papers of the 5th inst, and also reminded clubs that unless the members of their clews were named on the lists furnished to the association they would be liable to disqualification.

    5. [S177] The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Page 6, 11 Jun 1889.
      VICTORIAN ROWING ASSOCIATION.

      A meeting of the Victorian Rowing Association was held at Young and Jackson's Hotel on Monday evening. There were present-Mr. G. E. Upward (in the chair), and Messrs. S. H. Gowdie, P. O'Neill, G. Day, R. B. Nicoleon, T. R. Gilchrist, F. Brett, F. Warren, W. Horsburgh, W. B. House, and J. Tait.

      INTERCOLONIAL EIGHT-OARED RACE.

      A letter was received from the New South Wales Association, stating that the associated clubs in that colony had declined to continue, the annual eight-oared contest between Victoria and New South Wales unless the competitors came within the definition of amateur oarsmen as recognised by the latter colony.

      The consideration of the communication was deferred till next meeting.

      THE NELSON CASE.

      It was decided to inform the Warrnambool club that Mr. A. Nelson could not be regarded as an amateur oarsman, as he attended to the letting of boats.

      INTERCOLONIAL FOUR-OARED RACE.

      On the motion of Mr. Upward, it was resolved that the champion foar-oared and sculling races of Victoria should be rowed on the Lower Yarra in November of each year, and that the races should be open to clubs from the other colonies.

      A TROPHY.

      It was reported that Messrs M'Bean and Sons, jewellers, had presented the association with a trophy, and it was agreed that it should constitute the prize for the senior Sculllng race at the annual regatta.

      REDUCTION OF ENTRANCE FEES AND TROPHIES.

      With the view of inducing the promoters of country regattas to devote a portion of their funds to the payment of the expenses of visiting crews, it was decided that no order given to a successful competitor at a regatta should exceed

    6. [S177] The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Page 8, 18 Mar 1889.
      THE VICTORIAN ROWING ASSOCIATION'S REGATTA.
      ...
      Second Heat.
      Albert-park. - H. Oxlade (bow), W. Watson. A.Charmley, S. H. Gowdie (stroke) A. E. Hobson (cox.) .. .. .. .. .. .. .. 1
      Warrnambool- E. H. Price (bow), A. Hansen, C. O'Donnell, A. Nelson (stroke), J. Ross (cox.), .. 2
      The Albert-park, although on the outside position, had no trouble in winning.

    7. [S248] Warrnambool Standard (Vic. : 1914 - 1918) , Page 3, 14 Mar 1914.
      ROWING.

      With the Barwon Regatta over the local oarsmen have settled down to steady preparation for the T. Mackay Fours to be rowed on the River shortly. Entries close at the sheds this evening, and all those intending to compete are reminded that a list is at the sheds.

      The performance put up by the Maiden Four at Barwon on Saturday last came as a surprise to competing clubs. A contributor to a Melbourne daily in commenting on the race for the final says- "The big men from the 'Western Port.' won, as they pleased by 100 yards. Much of the credit of this success is due to their popular cox, Arthur Thompson, who held the strings. He also acted as coach during their training operations. To show their appreciation of his ef- forts in this direction the winning crew has made him the recipient of a handsome gold medal, suitably engraved.

      Old oarsmen and those associated with the local club over 20 years ago will remember that ardent supporter of rowing, C. O'Donnell. Writing to Mr. E. H. Price from W.A. during the week Mr. O'Donnell, in expressing the hope that the Warrnambool crew would be successful at the Barwon Regatta, reminded Mr. Price of the victory achieved by Warrnambool in the Maiden Four at that regatta in 1887. On that occasion Warrnambool was represented by A. Nelson (str.). G. O'Donnell (3). E. H. Price (2), E. Carpenter (bow). Warrnambool has won the event many times since then.

    8. [S66] Record of Marriage, 11 / 541, Jul/Aug/Sep.

    9. [S35] Federation Index. Victoria 1889 - 1901, The Crown in the state of Victoria, (Macbeth Genealogical Services P/L), 3407, 1892.
      Surname: NELSON
      Given Names: Andw Abberneathy
      Event: M
      Sex: M
      Spouse Surname/Father: KERR
      Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Alice Amelia
      Age:
      Age Code:
      Birth Place: VICTORIA
      Death Place:
      Year: 1892
      Reg. Number: 3407
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      Surname: KERR
      Given Names: Alice Amelia
      Event: M
      Sex: F
      Spouse Surname/Father: NELSON
      Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Andrew Aberneathy
      Age:
      Age Code:
      Birth Place: CASTLEMAINE
      Death Place:
      Year: 1892
      Reg. Number: 3407


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